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weak answer |
5 August 2005 |
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John Macauley, tech executive
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"The universe is big, so there's got to be life out there." That's
the best you can do? I love this issue of Science, but that's a weak answer
to this question.
I admit I am stunned and surprised by the silence we've experienced.
But we've listened to enough of the "audible" universe that we should have
heard something if there were something to hear (I presume that other
intelligent life would ask the same question -- and have been looking for
us a lot longer than we've been looking for them!). And yet after years
of listening -- nothing. It suggests to me that you're just hoping for a
jingle from the stars before we conclude we're alone. And the
implications of that conclusion are profound.
I'll keep reading. You keep watching. Maybe we'll get lucky. Or
not. |
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Flaw in Logic |
22 July 2005 |
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Roberto Gonzalez-Plaza, Faculty Northwest Indian College
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Kerr's enthusiastic report on SETI and the search for "life"
elsewhere in the Universe is logically flawed. Why does he assume that the
probability of finding conditions leading to life-as-on-Earth has
anything to do with terrestrial statistics? |
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endless permutations |
22 July 2005 |
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Paul G Mathieu, retired none
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I had long assumed that with some 10 to the 23 or 24 star systems in
the universe, it was likely that intelligent life forms should also exist
elsewhere. On reflection, I now doubt it: Over the last four plus billion
years, we have gone through endless random permutations before the first
living organism appeared, then we went through endless mutations, not to
mention inumerable species extinctions, to arrive at our current stage.
And out of these four billion years, only the last couple of hundred years
can be thought of as significantly intelligent. That the same process
should be repeated elsewhere in the universe might well be less than one
in 10 to the 24th. |
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We Must Put Time In the Equation |
6 July 2005 |
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Bernard Raab, retired physicist
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In his exposition of the probability of finding other intelligent
life in the universe, Richard Kerr points to the enormous numbers of
potential planets, which he concludes makes it only a matter of time
before the evidence of such life is uncovered. But he ignores the very
parameter, time, which may severely limit the number of candidate planets
inhabited by such life.
In round numbers, it has taken some 15 billion years, measured from
time zero, for sentient life to develop on Earth. Such life has existed in
the state capable of long-range communication for only the last 100 years.
The next step requires considerable guesstimation: How much longer can we
continue to inhabit Earth before we either run out of resources (e.g.,
food, energy) or destroy each other. Let's be generous and say 10,000
years. If we assume that we have a typical planet, then anyone looking
directly at our planet at any point in history would have to be looking
during this 10,000-year period over the 15-billion-year history of the
universe, or roughly one chance in a million of looking at just the right
time. In our search of stars, we do in fact look at stars of all ages and
stages of development without discrimination.
In other words, a SETI search team would have to probe some one
million planets that actually have developed or will develop intelligent
life at some point in their history to have a reasonable chance of
detecting one with active communicating life forms. If only one star in a
million has ever or will ever develop a planet with advanced life forms,
then the actual probability of finding one such becomes one in 10(12),
which exceeds the number of stars in our galaxy. Rather than the slam-dunk
implied by Richard Kerr, the success of the search would seem to be far
from assured. |
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Show Me the Numbers |
6 July 2005 |
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Clinton P. Mah, information engineer ACM
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To justify the OZMA project, Frank Drake proposed a simple formula
for computing the probability of intelligent life elsewhere in the Milky
Way. How should that formula be recast today in light of new knowledge in
biology and astronomy? Has the probability gone up or gone down? From the
latest data about the proclivity of gas giant planets to migrate inward
toward their stars, one would wonder if many terrestrial planets can
actually survive for long. |
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SETI : Is it looking in the right direction? |
1 July 2005 |
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Harish Radhakrishnan, Graduate Student Washington State University
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The project SETI makes a rather restrictive assumption that
intelligent life-forms if any, will develop over time to invent means of
communication using radio waves. A glance at the biosphere should indicate
all life-forms other than man have never made an attempt to do so. The
same might hold true in the future also.
The vastness of the universe suggests a strong possibility of the
presence of other places hospitable to the development of life-forms. The key
would be to analyze the events that led to development of man, who is
capable of much higher level when compared with the coexisting creatures. |