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Technical Comments
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| 1. |
T. D. Herbert,
et al.,
Science
293,
71
(2001)
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Response: Our group (1) and Winograd's Devils Hole team agree on many important aspects of late Pleistocene climate change along the western margin of North America. Our marine records reinforce the contention from Devils Hole that temperatures in the region rose toward interglacial levels during times that would be conventionally dated as glacial maxima and glacial terminations. Work recently presented by Winograd and his colleagues explicitly likens the timing of the Devils Hole record to our alkenone-based SST reconstruction from Santa Barbara Basin (2). Our interpretation of regional paleotemperature and paleoenvironmental data, however, differs from that of Winograd in two substantial ways.
1) We believe that the conjunction of alkenone SST records with benthic
18O data acquired on the same samples unequivocally
demonstrates that a strong temporal offset exists between glacial
maxima (defined by benthic
18O) and regional SST. That
finding does not depend on the precise chronology assigned to samples.
Papers published by the Devils Hole group asserted that the Devils Hole
temperature record could be used to date the marine
18O
sequence. That claim requires that regional surface temperatures be
synchronous with ice volumes, and is falsified at a number of marine
sites off the California margin discussed in our study (1).
Regional temperatures departed from the benthic
18O
curve in precisely the time intervals seized on by the Devils Hole
group to question the orbitally tuned chronology of the marine isotope
record. In his comment, Winograd continues to confuse surface
temperatures with ice volume and therefore ignores a major point in our
paper.
2) Winograd continues to assume that a single, globally applicable
paleotemperature curve describes the evolution of late Pleistocene
climate. Thus, he remarks on the similarity of the Devils Hole record
to isotopic estimates of past temperatures recorded in the Vostok ice
core from Antarctica. Recent efforts to synchronize the Vostok curve to
the marine record using the
18O of air trapped in Vostok
ice, however, do not support the chronology most favorable to the
Devils Hole record (3, 4). Finding many
regional paleotemperature records similar to Devils Hole does not prove
Winograd's case; instead, the rule is disproved by the exceptions,
which are numerous. For example, it is now well known that the Vostok
temperature record is significantly offset in time from Greenland ice
core records (5-7). Our own data showed
how the marine SST response differed along along the California margin.
Our Baja location showed next to no offset of SST from the benthic
18O record, whereas sites in the southern
California region had the largest anomalies. Other examples of regional
heterogeneity of SST relative to
18O come from the work
of Kirst et al. (8) along the Angola margin.
There, alkenone-based SSTs moved perfectly in phase with
18O at some sites, while other locations showed early
warmings similar to those detected in our work. The classic spectral
study of SSTs in the North Atlantic by Ruddiman and McIntyre
(9) found systematic differences in the relative power of
the Milankovitch frequencies as a function of latitude. In an analogous
manner, our grid of cores allowed us to argue that the "anomalous"
SSTs during glacial maxima have a strong regional fingerprint--that is,
we are dealing with signal, not noise.
Advances in understanding the full suite of climatic events that
accompanied glacial-interglacial cycles will require loosening the hold
of the "template" concept. Some records, such as benthic
18O, should from first principles provide records that
are very nearly globally sychronous. But we should move away from
equating global change with synchronous change as we study many
other climatic fields. That most late Pleistocene records resemble each
other to a large degree should not blind us to meaningful regional
deviations that may point toward the still unknown dynamics that move
climate so dramatically between glacial and interglacial states. Our
study's conclusion that the glacial collapse of the California Current system came from perturbations to the wind fields over the North Pacific caused by the Laurentide ice sheet seems valid with our present
data set, but could be revised when a better geographic distribution of
past SSTs becomes available. We stand by our basic conclusion that
regional climate processes are important and are expressed in the
preserved paleoclimate record, and that the Devils Hole record is best
viewed as just such a regional signal.
T. D. Herbert
J. D. Schuffert
Department of Geological Sciences
Brown University
Providence, RI 02912, USA
E-mail: timothy_herbert{at}brown.edu
D. Andreasen
University of California
Santa Cruz, CA 95064, USA
L. Heusser
Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory
Palisades, NY 10964, USA
M. Lyle
Center for Geophysical Investigation
of the Shallow
Subsurface
Boise State University
Boise, ID 83725, USA
A. Mix
Oregon State University
Corvallis, OR 97331, USA
A. C. Ravelo
University of California
Santa Cruz, CA 95064, USA
L. D. Stott
University of Southern California
Los Angeles, CA 90089, USA
J. C. Herguera
Centro de Investigación Científica y
de Educación
Superior de Ensenada
Ensenada 22860, Mexico
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