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Csibra et al. (1) reported that 8-month-old infants showed EEG responses in the gamma frequency range (around 40 Hz) in response to illusory Kanizsa figures, whereas 6-month-old infants did not. The ERPs showed a significant enhancement of the positivity around 136 ms for Kanizsa figures compared with the response for the non-Kanizsa figures in the older infants, but the opposite effect was seen in the younger ones. It was argued that the ERP effect in the 8-month-old infants indicates the processing of illusory contours and resembles the pattern seen in adults in a similar experiment by Herrmann et al. (2). That is not completely correct, however, even after taking into account the observation that infant ERP components are usually delayed in latency (3).
Although the ERPs of the two studies do look similar, the differences between Kanizsa figures and non-Kanizsa figures occur in different components of ERP. Csibra et al. (1) reported a significant difference for the P1 component (135 ms), which has its counterpart around 90 ms in adults. Herrmann et al. (2), however, reported a significant difference for the N1 (160 ms), which occurs around 200 ms in infants. If the P1 were the critical variable, then infants should be able to detect illusory figures earlier than adults, a notion that is both counterintuitive and that contrasts with results of other studies that show that infants take longer to perform such processing than do adults (4). In addition, it is surprising that the effect reverses between 6 months and 8 months of age: whereas the young infants exhibit larger responses to Kanizsa squares, the older infants show enhanced responses to non-Kanizsa figures. Csibra et al. did not discuss that anomaly
Based on our adult ERP and ERF (event-related field) data--which do not reveal a discrimination of illusory Kanizsa figures from non-Kanizsa figures in the P1 time interval (2, 5)--we propose a different interpretation. We argue that illusory contours cannot modulate the amplitude of the P1, but attending to a visual stimulus can enhance the visual P1 response (6). In addition, illusory figures are processed differently when attention is directed at their processing (5). Because, in the study by Csibra et al., the two black-and-white figures were presented within sequences of attractive colorful pictures, they "popped out" from that context and were processed more attentively. This interpretation is strongly supported by the similarity between the infants' late positive ERP component [figure 3A of (1)] and the target P3 component of ERPs from young adults (Fig. 1). For the older infants, who already have a memory representation of Kanizsa squares (or at least of squares), the nonfigural non-Kanizsa stimuli pop out more strongly, because the color pictures also represent figural images. Therefore, the non-Kanizsa square evokes a larger P1, which is in line with attention being able to modulate P1 amplitude.
Fig. 1.
(A) ERPs of young adults (mean age 24.3 years) in response to Kanizsa squares (red) and non-Kanizsa squares
(blue), referenced to the left mastoid [from (2)].
(B) ERPs from Fig. 1A, re-referenced to the average of all
electrodes, to make the data compatible with the ERPs from Csibra
et al. (1). Re-referencing reduced P3 amplitude,
but a target P3 (red) remained that looks much like the late positive
ERP component for the infants studied by Csibra et al. This
result demonstrates that the infants' positivity around 400 ms in
response is probably a target P3. N1 amplitudes differ significantly
between Kanizsa squares and non-Kanizsa squares, whereas P1 amplitudes
do not. (C) Stimuli that were presented: left, a Kanizsa
square that had to be counted (target); right, a non-Kanizsa
square.
Csibra et al. investigated within age groups how stimuli affect P1 amplitude. When the differences are examined between age groups for each type of stimulus, it seems as if the P1 in response to Kanizsa figures does not change between young and old infants. The P1 in response to non-Kanizsa stimuli, however, is larger in old infants than in young infants. Indeed, there is no clear P1 response to non-Kanizsa stimuli in younger infants, which suggests that they might not be processed as coherent figures at all.
For these reasons, and because it has previously been shown that attention modulates gamma responses (5, 7), it cannot be excluded that attention and processing of illusory contours interact in the generation of gamma activity in the infant brain.
Christoph S. Herrmann
Angela D. Friederici
Max Planck Institute of Cognitive Neuroscience
Postfach 500 355
04303 Leipzig, Germany
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| 2. | C. S. Herrmann, A. Mecklinger, E. Pfeifer, Clin. Neurophysiol. 110, 636 (1999) . |
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| 7. | M. M. Müller, T. Gruber, A. Keil, Int. J. Psychophysiol. 38, 283 (2000) . |
Response: Both of these comments stress differences between the findings of our report (1) on gamma-band activation in human infants and those of similar studies in adults. Such differences are indeed important, but we do not think that they warrant the reinterpretation that the commentators attempt to apply to our results.
Müller finds it surprising that we observed a left frontal increase in induced gamma activity and an occipital occurrence of evoked gamma activity. Though BOLD responses to illusory figures in adults are usually reported from the visual cortex, the localization of the induced and evoked gamma-band activities elicited by these figures is more varied. Tallon-Baudry et al. (2) characterized the induced activity as "widespread," as did Herrmann et al. (3) with the evoked gamma activity. Additionally, Tallon-Baudry et al. (4) suggested that the evoked gamma response could be subdivided into a central (frontal) and an occipital component. Furthermore, Keil et al. (5), which was co-authored by Müller, concluded that "aspects of visual processing ... involve oscillatory activity, not only in visual cortex but also in frontal areas." Our findings do not contradict Müller's assumption that "posterior cortical areas were involved in the given task." Indeed, both the ERPs and the evoked gamma showed evidence of this [figure 3 of (1)]. Clearly, in light of the variable findings in adults, we need to keep an open mind when interpreting the data from infants.
Müller's criticism regarding the "activity focused on electrode F7" is simply not correct or fair. When spherical interpolation shows highest activity over a certain electrode location, he considers it "a rather unusual focused activity"; when it is highest between electrodes, he considers it the mere result of interpolation. It is evident that one cannot create a scalp surface map of brain activity without local maxima and minima that necessarily fall either on or between electrode locations. Spherical interpolation serves only the purpose of illustration and does not in any way alter the data entered into statistical analyses. As reported in our paper, these analyses indicated significant differences at all three electrode locations [figure 2 of (1)]. The effect was not restricted to a single electrode.
Herrmann and Friederici propose a reinterpretation of our findings that relates the ERP effects in 8-month-olds to attention rather than binding. We find their specific proposal unlikely, however, for two reasons. (i) The attentional P1 effects seen in adults have been demonstrated in situations in which attention is directed toward a stimulus before it is presented--that is, by cueing its spatial location, as in the study by Heinze et al. (6) referred to by Herrmann and Friederici. This was not the case in our study, which randomized stimulus presentation specifically to avoid such effects. It therefore seems a long stretch to explain our infant ERP results in terms of a hypothesised effect that has never been observed in adults. (ii) We are not aware of any evidence of P1 modulation in infants even in studies manipulating spatial attention. Specifically, we have not yet observed this effect in infants (7) in a paradigm that did show the effect in adults (8).
Both comments worry about our claim that the ERPs of the 8-month-olds showed a pattern characteristic of adult ERPs, because it occurred as a smaller positivity rather than an enhanced negativity. It can be difficult to determine whether an ERP effect is a modulation of an identifiable component (such as P1 or N1) or an additional shift of electrical activity. Such "additive components" are not unprecedented in ERP research [e.g., the N400 (9)]. There is no simple way to find the ERP components in infants that correspond to components in adults, and we think that a negative voltage shift in the same latency range is as good a match as one based on enumeration of peaks.
Finally, we agree completely that we have to be cautious about the interpretation of our findings. Indeed, at the end of our paper, we stated that "more studies are needed to determine whether the frontal activation is directly related to the binding process or reflects further attentional processing on the object `bound' elsewhere in the infant brain." The comments by Müller and by Herrmann and Friederici have helped to identify aspects of our study that merit further research, but they do not bring into question the main finding of an association between object perception and binding-related gamma oscillation in infants.
G. Csibra
M. H. Johnson
Centre for Brain and Cognitive Development
School of Psychology
Birkbeck College
University of London
Malet Street
London WC1E 7HX, UK
| 1. | G. Csibra, G. Davis, M. W. Spratling, M. H. Johnson, Science 290, 1582 (2000) . |
| 2. | C. Tallon-Baudry, O. Bertrand, C. Delpuech, J. Pernier, J. Neurosci. 16, 4240 (1996) . |
| 3. | C. S. Herrmann, A. Mecklinger, W. Pfeifer, Clin. Neurophysiol. 110, 636, (1999). |
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| 6. | H. J. Heinze, et al., Nature 372, 543 (1994) . |
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| 9. | M. Kutas and S. A. Hillyard, Nature 307, 161 (1984) [CrossRef] [Medline] . |
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